Welcome William Ramsey.

Thank you.

Thank you for having me.

Glad to be here.

Me too.

So thanks for talking to me about this.

So right after the Emmys were over, I got a direct message from you of the selfie of the Central Park 5 at the Emmys.

These once convicted, now they vacated their conviction one judge vacated it

and they are at the at the MAs parting it up being fully celebrated I mean I was I'm glad

I got the text message from you but it was it's it's disturbing to see, no? Yeah, absolutely. Totally disturbing because it's still not, there's a significant amount of people,

including the arresting officers who believe that they were involved in, well, you know,

the raping close to near murder of the Central Park joggers.

So I think that to see them in the limelight with Ava DuVernay, I think it was very disturbing.

Yeah, very disturbing.

And also, just the idea, I kept having a fantasy, like, well, what if they showed instead of clips from

when they see us, what if they showed clips from the confession?

Great point.

Do you think people would be throwing tomatoes?

Absolutely.

They probably wouldn't want to be in their presence if they actually saw the confessions

that were in there, the non-coerced confessions, which Ava DuVernay

keeps restating in public interviews that they were coerced confessions. But if you look at

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