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Celebration Of Weird Ice, Non-Melting Jelly, Former NIH Director Reflects On His Tenure. December 31, 2021, Part 2

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🗓️ 31 December 2021

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

From the Arctic To Enceladus: A Celebration Of Unusual Ice

With the Arctic’s annual summer ice cover hovering at record lows; and a new record low in global sea ice coverage recorded earlier this year; and a large crack threatening the collapse of a large ice shelf in Antarctica, it can feel like the news about earth’s polar ice caps is all bad.

But for researchers who spend time in the frigid polar seas, ice is also a beautiful and unique phenomenon. Ever heard of frazil ice? How about pancake ice? Far from goofy names, these are key steps in the evolution of sea ice from water to a solid sheet. Oceanographer Ted Maksym shares his insights into the ice at earth’s poles.

Plus, how is Antarctica a good place for a painter of other planets? Astronomical artist Michael Carroll recounts how he explored Antarctica for hints about frozen moons like Europa and Enceladus. (See some of his art here.) Finally, planetary scientist Rosaly Lopes takes Ira into the coldest reaches of our solar system, where there’s growing evidence of volcanoes powered not by magma under rock, but by frigid water bursting through icy crusts.

It Wiggles and Wobbles, But Won’t Melt Away

Imagine a trip to the grocery or fish market, and seeing cuts of fresh fish laid out on beds of ice to chill. The shaved ice keeps the fish at the proper temperature—but what happens when that ice starts to melt, or gets dirty?

Researchers at the University of California, Davis, have developed a reusable "jelly ice" cube that does not lose its shape when it warms. The cubes, which can take a variety of shapes, are a hydrogel material made from 10% protein-based gelatin in water. The researchers say the cubes can be rinsed off and re-frozen up to 10 times—and when their life cycle is done, can be composted or mixed into plant growth media.

Luxin Wang, an associate professor of food science and technology at UC Davis, describes the material and its properties.

Francis Collins, Longest-Running NIH Director, Steps Down

Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), will be stepping down from his post at the end of the year. Collins is the longest serving NIH director, serving three presidents over 12 years: Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden.

Before his role at the NIH, Collins was an acclaimed geneticist, helping discover the gene that causes cystic fibrosis. He then became director of the National Human Genome Research Institute, where he led the project that mapped the human genome.

A lot can happen in 12 years, especially in the fields of health and science. Collins joins Ira to talk about his long tenure at the NIH, as well as how his Christian faith has informed his career in science.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday, I'm I Reflato. Later in the hour, a conversation without going NIH

0:05.5

Director Frances Collins. But first, what better way to think about winter and winter holidays

0:11.6

than with an exploration of ice? Yeah, so we're dipping into the Science Friday cold storage

0:18.2

to bring back this conversation from 2017. A tour of the unique kinds of ice throughout the solar

0:24.3

system. Like for instance, phrasal ice. And I mean, that's not ice that's extremely stressed or

0:29.8

harried, despite how you might feel after this year. It's just one of the many kinds of ice you

0:34.6

may find forming in the seas at our poles. Also, there's pancake ice, sugar ice, ridge ice,

0:41.1

grease ice, and a whole lot more. Mariners and scientists who spend time in the sea ice by the

0:46.6

poles have more than two dozen names for the types they see. Joining me to help explore those is

0:52.1

Ted Maxim, Associate Scientist at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Woods Hole, Massachusetts.

0:58.4

Welcome to Science Friday. Thanks for having me, Ira. You're packing for a trip to Antarctica,

1:03.2

even as we speak, where there's a lot of ice? Yes, I am. We're going down to Antarctica,

1:09.2

this Australenter. So it's sort of our summer. It's actually April and May. And trying to get us

1:16.4

deep into the ice pack as we can to see what's going on there. So that's going via an icebreaker

1:22.0

then. It's going via an icebreaker. Yeah. And going through sea ice, so it's not through big

1:29.2

glaciers. That would be impossible. The sea ice is down there is usually only a few feet thick.

1:34.4

So you got a strong enough ship you can get through pretty well. So is it still dark down there?

1:41.8

Is it going to be getting dark soon? I should say it's Australenter. Right. So it's the opposite

1:46.4

of us. Right. So it's quite light down there. By the time we get down there, which is going to be

1:51.0

mid-April, it's going to be starting to get dark. And we plan to get as far south as you possibly

1:56.8

can at sea on this planet, which is about 78 degrees south. By the time we get there in mid-May,

2:03.7

it's going to be 24 hours of darkness. And it's not scary to be in the ocean. I was around

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