Ted Audio Collective

People of a certain generation, they hear that their kid is gay and they think, my son's

gonna die of ants.

And then they saw us as being damaged.

And they were afraid that they were the ones that did it.

From the Ted Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

For 18 years, Debbie Milman has been talking with designers and other creative people about

what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working

on.

This week, in celebration of gay pride month, we're going to hear excerpts from some intimate

conversations about sexual identity.

The agony that I went through was my own self-loathing, my own self homophobia, which

I still have to battle.

I thought that I wouldn't be accepted in society.

The first question that stranger is going to ask me is, so you're trans.

Do you have a dick?

My favorite thing about my home in New York is that I have a little bit of outdoor space.

My outdoor furniture makes this space that much more special.

This is because of the outer brand.

Outer makes the world's most beautiful, comfortable, innovative, high quality outdoor furniture, and

it is all made from sustainable materials.

You can see the difference at LiveOuter.com slash Design Matters, plus for a limited time,

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