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Welcome to the Jill on Money Show. It's Sunday, June 12th, and we are going to deliver part two

of our interview with Glenda Test Stone. She is the executive director of the LGBTQ center of

New York City. If you didn't listen to yesterday's interview, you might want to go check that out,

just to give you an idea about what the center does. And full disclosure, I'm on the board of the

center. So I want you everyone to understand that. So I'm in their corner for sure. In this part of

the interview, we kind of dive into what it was like to be the executive director of a non-profit

organization as the pandemic hit. And this is a really an important aspect of what executive

directors have to do. They don't just get to manage in the good times. It's the bad times as well.

So here is part two of our interview with the center's Glenda Test Stone.

You've been the ED now for, I don't know, a dozen years, more than a dozen years. So

when you came into the year 2020, came off of a big year 2019 and 2020 begins,

what did you think was going to be the biggest challenge for running this non-profit organization?

Well, I had just signed a new to your contract. And I had put into that contract a sabbatical

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