Early on, Nancy DeMas Walgamuth recognized this. She needed to lean on God, not her natural

abilities. And I asked the Lord, don't ever let me get to the place in ministry where I feel like

I can do this without you. And that is one prayer God has been very faithful to answer. He keeps me

sensing, I can't do this if God doesn't come through.

We're celebrating our 20th anniversary week here on the Revire Heart's podcast with Nancy DeMoss

Walgamuth. It's August 31st's program. But before we get to that, let me say thank you for the many testimonies and congratulations you've been calling in to wish Nancy and Revive our hearts a happy birthday.

On Friday, this program turns 20.

And Nancy turns, well, I probably shouldn't say it on the air, more than 20.

Chris called from Arkansas and left us this message.

Happy birthday to both the ministry and to Nancy. I want to say to Nancy, thank you for staying

in the battle. Thank you for swimming upstream for not giving up. Thank you for making your will pliable to conform to God's will. Your teachings

and those of your ministry have helped me alter my course closer to God's will, and I'm very

thankful for you. Well, thank you, Chris. It sounds like you had a furry friend there with you, too. If you'd like to call and let us know how God has used revive our hearts in your life, here's the number for our testimony line. It's area code 269-69-69-69-67-6-1-61. We'd sure love to hear from you. Again, it's 269-69-69-69-676-6-1-6-1.

Yesterday we heard from Nancy about her years prior to the start of Revive Our Hearts.

You can review that episode on the Revive Our Hearts app or by visiting Revive Our Hearts.com.

Nancy's talking with Bob Lapine, and he was instrumental in helping us get going with this program 20 years ago.

Bob served on the Revive Our Hearts Advisory Board all the way from the beginning. Let's listen.

All of these formative years and the experience that we've talked about really led to an unexpected encounter in the summer of 1995.

I was attending Campus Crusades staff conference.

All of us who were on staff were in Fort Collins, Colorado for a week of training and equipping,

and we were hearing from a variety of speakers.

It was a great week.

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