Hi, I'm Jonathan Kapart, and welcome to Cape Up.

Cecile Richards first came on the podcast in 2017 when she was the president of Planned Parenthood.

She returns now as the co-founder of Supermajority, an

organization pushing to harness the political power of women to pursue a women's

agenda that fosters equity and fairness for all Americans.

We talked about this, Trump, her mother, the late Ann Richards,

and whether a woman can be elected president in 2020.

We recorded this episode during the Third Way Conference in Charleston in June,

and you can hear it all right now.

Well, it's to see old Richards, Thank you very much for coming back to the

podcast. This is your second time on K-pop. First time in a live event. Yes, it's

exciting. So when you were first on the podcast, you were the president of Planned Parenthood.

I don't know if you had announced that you were going to be leaving then, but you were the head of Planned Parenthood from 2006 to 2018.

I mean, after, what's that, 16 years, why not just stay? Well, it was an amazing job. I loved it. It was the best job I ever had. I think it's the best job in America if you want to work in progressive issues.

But I also think it's important that those of us who have had these amazing jobs make space for other folks.

I think that's true in politics as well.

People who have been maybe taking up really important roles, move aside.

And so I haven't given up the fight for reproductive rights and

abortion rights and I think it's never been more important but I do think it was

time for me to make room. Can I say the one interesting thing I was

realizing is I flew into Charleston. The last

event I did as a Planned Parenthood president was cutting the ribbon on a brand

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