Lemonada.

This is Sarah Stewart-Holland.

This is Beth Silvers.

You're listening to Pantsu Politics,

where we take a different approach to the news.

Thank you for joining us today. We have a very long conversation for you because there was a lot to talk about.

We talk about the ceasefire deal. We talk about the legacy of Joe Biden, which is indelibly caught up with Donald Trump.

And so we talk about the incoming Trump administration,

the many, many confirmation hearings happening on Capitol Hill this week

and continuing into next week.

And we talk about how we're thinking about both of those things,

what we'd like to see from the Democratic Party as they face a second Trump administration, we talk about America itself and it's voters

and how we are continuing to interpret the election results and how we think

about critiquing or alternatively taking seriously the incoming Trump administration.

So settle in.

We've got a long conversation for you.

I think we had some really good points.

And then, of course, outside of politics,

which we like to do at the end of the show, as we take a little exhale, we talked about a really

important debate that I, Beth, would think, would be pretty contentious among the community,

even though we found lots of agreement inside the conversation, which is pencils versus pens.

Like many things, I would say keep it nuanced. I like both. But I think that we really got to some of the features.

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