Welcome to the global phenomenon,

Surviving the Survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist,

Joel Waldman.

Now it is my pleasure to introduce Carmela Waldman, Joel Waldman, and Jim Axelrod. Thank you all for being here, especially to the Highland Park folks.

My hometown and about 20 of them said they were coming to are here so Bill Bloom and

Rob Crozier special shout out to you guys for those who do not know the man to the left of Carm, he is among the most senior

CBS National Correspondents, very well known.

He'll true crime fans.

He also will occasionally host 48 hours.

I wanted to beat him Axelrod.

He's about six, seven years older than me.

And Karmh has heard me curse many times.

Not at Jim directly, but at the TV saying,

why does that guy have that job?

But look, he went on, he covered,

he was one of the first reporters in Iraq covering the war.

I remember, he won't remember this,

but I remember because I idolized him,

bumping into him at the Miami Airport and I think he said hey I'm just coming back from interviewing Paul McCartney

But look I had a podcast and my first guest was my mom.

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