Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, STS Nation?

Welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor, the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guests in all of true crime.

And it is a team panel tonight with a literal living legend.

I don't have the formal bios.

Please forgive me.

It's been a busy newsday counterclockwise.

You always start with a woman.

This is the great Dr. Ann Burgess, a literal living legend,

a professor at the College of Nursing at Boston College, and she's still hard at work.

She helped create the psychology of profiling, the literal science. She is one of the OGs of that. She changed the way policing and law enforcement is done. Next up, Rob DeMico, a 39-year career military and FBI guy that's chased pirates through Somalia and a lot of other crazy things on the last show or two shows got found out that he was a sniper working at a DC sniper case and he was doing it out of a helicopter, which seems kind of crazy.

Last but not least, Scott Duffy, the voice of reason. He's here every Friday. And look at this. Not for me, but for Ann Burgess, he's got his lapel pin on.

That looks like the Liberty Bell from here. What is that lapel pin, Scott Duffy?

You would be correct, Joel. That is the FBI Philadelphia office, one of the many

lapel pins, which happens to be the seal over the Liberty Bill.

Yeah, we have plastic pins here at Surviving the Survivor.

I thought I might wear it on my t-shirt one of these days, but that's the best I can do.

So for those of you who have not been on top of the news and people do have lives,

the Altoona Police Department got a tip,

and you might wonder where that is. That is in Western Pennsylvania. They got a tip today that a guy resembling the person NYPD was looking for in the shooting of 50-year-old Brian Thompson.

Of course, he was the CEO of United

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