This started a long life of group homes, detention centers and ultimately prison.

At what point did they intervene? Why didn't they intervene?

It's a situation that I would not want to find myself in. I would never want to get attacked

and I would never want to have to defend myself by killing somebody.

And the big question we always ask, John, is just as been served here.

This is True Crimecast.

This is True Crimecast. Jamie here with John, as I always am, what's up, man?

Hey, man. It's another day in Kentucky. Feels great outside. The rain's coming in.

Getting nice and cozy for a murder story. We getting close to fall.

It is gloomy. It is very killerly outside.

Yeah, getting close to fall. My favorite time of the year, man.

Football is in full swing. I mean, is there a better time of year?

I submit there is not.

I could not agree more. And we're coming up on the fall, which is when we started this podcast five years ago.

Yeah, here in just a few weeks, early November will be five years that True Crimecast has been available.

Lots have changed over the years.

Lots of things have changed. We new intros, new cases, new riders.

I mean, we're blessed, man. And we're really blessed to have you all that just continue to stick around.

And I mean, we're here because of you all. So we appreciate it.

Thank you so much to everybody that listens, but we have a few specific thank yous to give out today.

This is a review from over on Facebook. This is from Crystal Marie Hill.

It says, my favorite podcast hands down. I love winding down the evenings with a great True Crime story told by Jamie and John.

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