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Intelligence Squared

Cats vs Dogs, with John Gray and Will Self, Part 1

Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

News, Society & Culture, Arts, News Commentary

4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

It’s the issue that’s more polarising than politics. The world is full of animal lovers but we can’t agree on which pet is more worthy of our love – the loyal, obedient dog, or the inscrutable, capricious cat. In this episode philosopher John Gray goes up against writer Will Self to debate the age old question of which animal is superior. The debate was chaired by writer, academic and broadcaster Shahidha Bari. We’d love to hear your feedback and what you think we should talk about next, who we should have on and what our future debates should be.  Send us an email or voice note with your thoughts to podcasts@intelligencesquared.com or Tweet us @intelligence2.  And if you’d like to get ad-free access to all Intelligence Squared podcasts, including exclusive bonus content, early access to new episodes and much more, become a supporter of Intelligence Squared today for just £4.99, or the equivalent in your local currency .  Just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:57.7

Welcome to Intelligence Squared.

0:59.9

I'm senior producer Connor Boyle.

1:02.1

Coming up, Cats versus Dogs.

1:04.3

Today's debate needs little explanation

1:06.1

and everyone's got an opinion on it.

1:08.2

Feline were canine.

1:09.8

Which four-legged friend do we love the most?

1:12.1

Well, back in 2020, we gathered two outspoken thinkers to settle it once and for all.

1:17.2

John Gray is one of the UK's best known and most popular philosophers who wrote the book

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