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Intelligence Squared

Cats vs Dogs, with John Gray and Will Self, Part 1

Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

News, Society & Culture, Arts, News Commentary

4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

It’s the issue that’s more polarising than politics. The world is full of animal lovers but we can’t agree on which pet is more worthy of our love – the loyal, obedient dog, or the inscrutable, capricious cat. In this episode philosopher John Gray goes up against writer Will Self to debate the age old question of which animal is superior. The debate was chaired by writer, academic and broadcaster Shahidha Bari. We’d love to hear your feedback and what you think we should talk about next, who we should have on and what our future debates should be.  Send us an email or voice note with your thoughts to podcasts@intelligencesquared.com or Tweet us @intelligence2.  And if you’d like to get ad-free access to all Intelligence Squared podcasts, including exclusive bonus content, early access to new episodes and much more, become a supporter of Intelligence Squared today for just £4.99, or the equivalent in your local currency .  Just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I mean, Sirling, and today I'm at a McCain Potato Field.

0:04.0

Being chased by a massive war!

0:06.0

It's just a lady bird, Ian.

0:08.0

Well, it had a real war spanner, Jay.

0:10.0

Why are they here?

0:12.0

Well, we plant wildflowers to help encourage wildlife,

0:14.0

like birds and insects.

0:16.0

So, we eat McCain chips. I'm helping do some good.

0:18.0

Yeah, exactly. You're supporting the move to regenerative farming.

0:22.0

Okay, this time it's definitely a war sp.

0:24.0

My life's in danger.

0:26.0

Ian, that's a butterfly.

0:28.0

McCain.

0:29.0

McCain, it's a butterfly.

0:31.0

I mean, Sirling, and today I'm at a McCain Potato Field.

0:34.0

Being chased by a massive war!

0:36.0

It's just a lady bird, Ian.

0:38.0

Well, it had a real war spanner, Jay.

0:40.0

Why are they here?

0:42.0

Well, we plant wildflowers to help encourage wildlife,

0:44.0

like birds and insects.

0:46.0

So, we eat McCain chips. I'm helping do some good.

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