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I'm gonna let Peg out because she's having a breakdown. Cats. Cats, you don't gotta tell me

I understand. Cats. You know what it is about cats? They're very demanding. They want what they want

when they want it. There's no argument to be made with them. No, they look at you like, I don't

care what you say. You can't really scold that you can't like train them, can you? Unless I just

have special cats. They're a little sociopathic. Yeah, that's what it is. I can't train cats. I can't,

you think I could train my cat. Like if I tell Banjo, no, you know, she'll change her behavior

next time. Yes. Yes. A cat just like second. A cat looks at you and basically says what?

Yeah. What do you want from me? Yeah, you change. You change your ways. Yeah, exactly.

No, it's no different in my house. I don't feel I feel like I feel like Charlie's oh laid back.

Oh please, are you kidding? I'm not. She's demanding. She's beyond demanding. I don't see the

side of Charlie because every time I come over because you're not around during her feeding times.

That's true. Feed the man's. She yells at you. So she's not at you. I've never seen this.

Oh, she wants to go outside. She wants to come back inside. She wants to go outside. She goes

outside. She wants to escape. You bring her back in. She wants to go out again. She'll

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