Hello, everybody. Welcome to Three Point Perspective, the podcast about illustration. I'm Jake Parker.

I'm Lee White. And well, Terry can join us today because he is on assignment somewhere else.

And we have a special episode today where we interview Katia Chen, who is an illustrator working in children's

books, concept art, and a longtime friend of Lee White. And we go way back too. I knew her back

in the day as well. We crossed paths, I would say. Oh, when you guys were doing the flight stuff? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So, yeah, I met her at, I'm sure I met her at one of the gallery nucleus shows, but I,

but I know that we were at a flight booth together at one of the cons at San Diego or something like

that. Yeah. She's a unique talent for sure. She was always really good in school.

And that's, and we formed a critique group. So it's fun to go back and have this chat with her

because I knew her right when I was getting started and everything was unclear for her and for me

and for all of us. And we were just kind of flying blind. And, you know, to see how her

career has blossomed and not only her career, but her, just her as a person. You know, she's

become a mom and she's, and I don't know, she just seems like she's got it together. And then she's

super on. And we just got done with the interview.

She's just so honest about how it is to be an illustrator.

How do you balance these things?

How do you, you know, everything in hindsight seems so clear and everything during, you know,

while you're trying to live it seems so kind of murky.

And she kind of goes into that.

It's just so cool to catch up after that much time. It's been probably 15 years since

since we've spoken, but we had this critique group in school and then that lasted for a couple

of years outside of school. And so yeah, just really cool to touch base. She's doing incredible work.

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