Cathy O'Neil (data scientist on shame)

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

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4.6 • 68.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2022

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Cathy O'Neil (The Shame Machine: Who Profits in the New Age of Humiliation) is a mathematician, data scientist, and author. Cathy joins the Armchair Expert to discuss how shaming is used as a tool of oppression, how companies profit from shaming people publicly, and how social media conditions us to shame. Cathy and Dax discuss Race to 270, what punching-up shaming is, and how most people are in denial of their own shame. Cathy explains what the four stages of shame are, when shame can be used appropriately, and the ways in which we can challenge our own shaming. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0	Welcome welcome to armchair expert experts on experts. I'm Dan rather and I'm joined by Jeremiah Weekly
0:06.7	Hello Sharon's Minin
0:09.5	No, rest of sure Monica's on this episode, but right now it's just you and I.
0:16.0	It's just you and I sharing our love for you.
0:23.0	What a blast here.
0:27.0	Sharon and I are on a little trip to Disney World,
0:30.0	like two little boys.
0:32.0	Yes, two grown men with no children.
0:35.0	Father-son trip to Disney World tomorrow
0:38.0	and there's going to be a lot of souvenirs.
0:41.0	Aaron will be in Mickey Mouse,
0:44.0	Hirs, yeah.
0:46.2	We have a wonderful guest today.
0:48.2	Kathy O'Neil has a PhD in mathematics
0:51.6	from Harvard and is the author of the best selling book
0:54.8	Weapons of Math Destruction. She recently founded Orca and Algorithmic Auditing
1:00.9	Company. She has a new book which we discuss in depth called The Shame Machine
1:06.4	who profits in the New Age of Humiliation. Aaron you didn't meet her.
1:10.7	I didn't but I see what she's doing there yeah you kind of get it yeah yeah I
1:16.8	I love someone who's well I just can't comprehend being smart enough to get a degree
1:21.8	in mathematics from Harvard.
1:23.6	No.
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