A field transfer is as difficult as a miscarriage, like a lot of therapists and mental health

experts will tell you like it's as difficult and for me it was even more difficult because there

was so much riding on this little embryo like so much time, so much work, so much hope. It was

really, really difficult. I feel like that was like the darkest point of the entire journey was

when this failed.

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My name is Liesel Tein, I'm a fellow mom, labor and deliver nurse, and your host.

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And now let's get into this week's episode. I am so excited to share this podcast

episode with you guys. I am doing a birth story today with Catherine and you know that feeling

that you get when you watch a really feel good movie, like maybe it's really sad in the beginning,

and then there's like these really, really good feel good parts at the end. You're just like,

oh, I just feel so good. After watching this movie, I'm not trying to compare her story to a movie,

but that is how I feel right now. I just got off recording with her, and I usually record these

intros right when I get off with people. You know, so I remember what the episode is about,

and just I just got off with her, and I just can't wait to share this story with you guys.

So I'm not going to spoil too much, but Catherine did struggle with secondary infertility with

the birth of her daughter. It was actually a full 18 months that she went through rounds of

Clomid and IUI and IVF, and it was just really, really tremendous to hear that whole process,

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