Hi, my name is Father Mike Schmitz and this is Ascension Presents.

A couple years ago, my dad was at a conference in England.

They went to Oxford, he and my mom.

And they went into a pub called the Eagle and the Child.

They knew I would be pretty excited when they told me they went to the pub called the Eagle

and the Child.

So they took a picture of a booth, you know, a booth in a bar, a booth in a pub.

And to send back to me, like, that's really weird.

Why would they go to a pub in Oxford, take a picture of a booth and send it to their

son, the priest?

And the reason is because the Eagle and the Child is the name of a pub that sees Lewis

and are Tolkien and some other their compatriots, contemporaries known as the Inklings would

spend a lot of time and they would, that's where they grew a lot of ways, a lot of ways

that they grew their fraternity together.

They grew in their friendship and fellowship with each other, talked about big ideas, criticized

each other's works and built each other up.

So the Babe and the Bear, or Babe and the Bird, yeah, the Bird and the Babe, the Eagle and

the Child is that pub and that's there, that was their booth.

And I can just a picture in Tolkien and see us Lewis sitting there with, you know, a pint

of some kind of beer.

And it always has this sort of great romantic idea in my head of just these friends gathered

together with a couple beers and just like becoming closer and closer friends and becoming

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