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Elizabeth Sullivan joins us today. She is a former journalist, former teacher of writing and

literature, and she is now the executive director of the Institute for Catholic Liberal

Education. She is here to discuss what's happening. What's going on? I've worked with Elizabeth off and on over the last few years, including

attending the ICLE conference the other day at Catholic University. And so we're on a first

name basis. Welcome, Elizabeth. Thanks for having me, Mark. All right. Well, first tell us,

generally, what does the Institute for Catholic Liberal Education do?

The Institute was founded basically to support Catholic educators in a variety of ways.

Our aim is to renew Catholic schools, to help teachers renew schools by reclaiming the church's

tradition in liberal learning, basically stepping away

from the secular model, recognizing that our own tradition is very different, and to reclaim

that just across the board, content, curriculum, pedagogy, and approach.

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