Nathan's Gurra Gerard Cherry and joining us right now, Assistant General Manager,

Catherine Hickman, joining us tonight. Catherine, thanks for joining us.

Thanks for having me. Always great to speak with you guys every year.

Yes, ma'am. So you looked at Carson Swessinger and what were you guys seeing?

I mean, you're seeing, just starting with his personality, you're seeing a player who,

as this walk on, chip on his shoulder, mentality, you think of toughness, you think of what he's been able to accomplish.

His story is just fantastic. To today being, you know, 33rd overall pick. And then you look at what he did on the field. Like his production this past season is undeniable. He's been a really strong contributor on special teams as well prior to this

year. So you're really looking at a very athletic, instinctive, good feel, player that's going to

be able to make an impact in both phases of the game that we look very much forward to work with.

Was there temptation to move out of 33, and was there maybe some also intel that your player

might not have been there at 36?

I mean, every time we get on the clock, you know how Andrew operates.

So we look at every single possibility.

We feel calls.

We did exactly.

So you definitely consider all options.

But when you have a player like Carson sitting there looking at you, it's really hard not to pull the trigger.

Should we read anything into this pick in regards to JOK?

No, like this is about, this is really about getting the best player

we can get on this football team, and we have wonderful coaches that are going to find a way

to maximize all of these players' strengths. Is he a Mike in our eyes, or is he a will?

I think what's beautiful about him is his, is versatility. So you will be able to offer flexibility at multiple position.

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