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Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast from BBC History Magazine and BBC History Reveal.

I'm Ellie Cawthorne.

Cathedrals have been a long-standing fixture of English cities,

surviving some of the most turbulent periods of religious and social change.

But what can they reveal about our past?

In today's episode, Nicholas Orme speaks to Emily Briffitt

about the long and illustrious history of the cathedral,

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