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The Ikonns

Caterpillar to a Butterfly - Karl Lokko

The Ikonns

Alex & Mimi Ikonn

Self-help, Health & Fitness, Dreamlife, Selfimprovement, Education, Inspiring, Mimiikonn, Goals, Influencers, Alexikonn

4.82.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2019

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode we chat with one of the UK’s most inspiring people, former gang leader and u-turned public speaker, poet, musician and rehabilitation leader - Karl Lokko. Whether it’s visiting Necker Island with Richard Branson or attending the Royal wedding, Karl’s remarkable journey is a far cry from his Brixton Badlands past.

Karl is one of the UK’s most connected under 30 year olds, he now holds a platform for true change, helping thousands of youth to escape the gang culture on the very dangerous streets of South London. As a former gang leader himself, life hasn’t always been so easy. Infact his u-turn is nothing less than truly breathtaking. And his journey to get to where he is now, even more jaw dropping!

From the age 12, Karl found himself on the wrong side of the tracks when his bicycle was stolen a few too many times. In his defense he formed his own gang of misfits, something Brixton wasn’t short of. A product of the Windrush generation decades before him, he was used to seeing displacement all around him. Which gave everyone and anyone a reason to fight.

“There’s a reason for rage, they so won’t that scare you straight? Well, If what you’re doing is because you are already scared, that is going to fuel your rage” - Karl [17:35]


Unfortunately the violence didn’t stay on a scrappy playground level for long. By the age of 14 he had already witnessed his friends being shot, been shot at himself and carried his own knife wounds as battle scars. Scars that he held as a trophy to go with the ‘strike them before they strike you’ mindset that permeated both his gang and the culture that followed - with or against him.

“There’s a lack of remorse, everyone can feel our pain ‘cause I’m feeling it, everyone else becomes fair game” - Karl [16:00]


But his story isn’t only one of a bleak distraught childhood, in today’s episode you’ll hear the remarkable story of how Karl turned his back on the violence and literally earned himself a seat at the table with some of the world’s most powerful and influential people. Karl now heads up a charitable organisation that transforms gang members into respectable citizens, helping them see life outside of gangs. Or as Alex calls it, his “love gang” - “goosebumps” as Mimi puts it.

“I was inspired by bible stories of sheppard boys throwing rocks at political, economical and cultural giants called Goliath. Those emails were my stones and i had to throw them out there” - Karl [47.30]


We are truly honoured to talk with Karl. His giant heart, kind nature and switched on intelligence shines light on what you can do if you really put your mind to making a positive change, both in your life and others.


We talk about:

  • The disaffected difference between class and race that still exists in society today
  • How gangs and street violence are a product of circumstance
  • Anxieties can lead to displacement
  • Your enemy is also a person, how to look into their eyes and see from another perspective
  • The only real enemy is yourself and your choice in how you react to situations
  • Why the only answer to the problem we face is love
  • How you can form your own love gang
  • Why we should be turning societies liabilities into assets and help displaced people find a purpose
  • Going behind enemy lines with an open heart, walking the path to a ceasefire
  • Finding a support system in the most influential people in the world
  • How speaking with confidence puts you at the same table as powerful people

Hope you enjoyed this week’s episode with Karl, you can find out more about him here:

Karllokko.com

Twitter

Instagram

Butterfly Effect - Youtube video by Karl Lokko

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello my beautiful friends and welcome to the icons podcast.

0:06.7

On today's podcast episode we have a very special friend whose name is Carl Locke.

0:12.2

Carl Locke's story is truly a story like no other because I've never met anybody who

0:17.4

was a real gang member.

0:19.8

And not just a gang member, he was a gang leader.

0:23.2

And he comes from South London and he struggled a lot in his earlier years.

0:28.3

And then one day Carl just decided to completely change his life and change his world for the

0:34.6

better.

0:35.6

So he went from somebody who was struggling with his life and in pure negativity into

0:41.5

somebody who is now helping people out of the darkness into the light because he was

0:45.8

able to do this for himself.

0:47.8

And it's so inspiring to see him be a successful poet, to do public speaking, to also help many

0:54.5

charitable organizations to help this youth have better life opportunities.

0:59.7

So it's incredible to have his story today.

1:01.8

Yeah, I'm so excited to get into this episode because Carl is just a great guy and you

1:06.4

will find out in this episode how he was able to do that because by transforming your energy

1:11.2

you can completely shift your life as Mimi just said and this is what Carl did.

1:16.3

And to see his life now, the circles that he's in, you know, you can see Monica Eilin

1:21.3

who was your brand saying he's been one of the few people invited to the Royal Wedding,

1:27.4

yes, with Harry and Megan.

1:29.4

And he's a really down to earth guy and there's a reason to all the success and the reason

1:34.1

why people gravitate towards him.

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