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The Watch

Catching Up on ‘Slow Horses,’ ‘The Lowdown,’ and ‘The Chair Company.’ Plus, the ‘Black Rabbit’ Creators!

The Watch

The Ringer

Tv & Film

4.55.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Chris and Andy talk about the news that Adam Driver and Steven Soderbergh pitched a Kylo Ren ‘Star Wars’ standalone movie that Disney passed on (5:17), before checking in on ‘Slow Horses,’ (9:21) ‘The Lowdown,’ (26:38) and ‘The Chair Company’ (40:22). Later, Chris is joined by ‘Black Rabbit’ series creators Zach Baylin and Kate Susman to discuss how they balanced the dueling tones of the show, working with Jason Bateman and Jude Law, why it was important to make it feel so authentic to New York City, and more (51:48). Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of ‘The Watch’ and so much more! Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guests: Zach Baylin and Kate Susman Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady Video Producer: Jon Jones Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:30.3

I need sports to have to clear the room.

0:33.6

Stand up and walk now. Now. Hello and welcome to The Watch.

0:38.4

My name is Chris Ryan.

0:39.7

I am an editor at the ringer.com and joining me on the other line worth approximately $24 a share.

0:48.9

It's Andy Greenwald.

0:51.6

I regret to inform you.

0:53.2

The footsie's already closed here and my market cap has decreased.

0:56.6

Is your stock upside down, brother?

0:58.8

It's not where I want it to be.

1:00.7

Is Rishi kind of going long on you, but only to short other things?

1:05.7

Yeah, but it's also like late season three Rishi.

1:08.7

It's not early days Rishi over here.

1:10.5

It's white Christmas Rishi. Andy, it's just really, really important to see you today. Today on the watch, we're going to take a spin through some of the TV that we possibly neglected while we were diving deep on task. We did our task finale pod. Came out Sunday night. There was an interview with Brad Ingalls be the creator of creator of task in that podcast. I really enjoyed that chat. Thanks to everybody who rode with us through the green forests of Delco. Sad to see that show over, but there's a lot of good TV on right now and a lot of good TV coming, so I'm excited to hit slow horses, do a check-in there, do a check-in on the lowdown, and then get into the chair company, which has aired its first two episodes on HBO Max. I also have my interview with Zach Balin and Kate Sussman, who are the writers and creators of Black Rabbit, which is a show I really enjoyed on Netflix from a couple of weeks ago. It aired, still airing, but it debuted a couple of weeks ago on Netflix, and was one that I just really enjoyed top to bottom. I found it very, very entertaining. So it's a really fun conversation with Zach and Kate. I also do want to, I know you love it when I do this, I do directly want to address the rumors that have been swirling out there that I was on some sort of, you know,

2:18.2

because I've only talked to ask. Yeah, I also do want to, I know you love it when I do this, I do directly want to address the rumors that have been swirling out there that I was on some sort of, you know, because I've only, I've only talked to ask with you in the last like 10 days since I've been in London. Oh, that you were like, Max only for me?

2:34.8

Yeah, yeah. And to those of you who thought it was because there was an episode of the

2:40.1

rewatchables devoted to my favorite film sneakers, to which I was not a party, the answer is yes.

2:47.0

That was my quiet quitting. So your way of doing this is you're just going to talk about HBO Max Sunday night shows,

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