I'm Rebecca Lervoy and this is you can't make this up is the podcast where we uncover the true stories behind

your favorite Netflix documentaries and films.

On today's episode, we take a closer look at the four-part Netflix True Crime Series

catching killers.

Unless you're extremely cold-blooded when you see something like that it has some effect on you.

If it doesn't, in my opinion, you're not human.

Today we're talking to one of the directors of the series Alex Emsley.

Catching Killers retels the stories of some of America's most notorious serial killers

from the point of view of the people who caught them.

Each film in this series recounts the investigation

into one notorious killer.

They include the Green River Killer Gary Ridgeway

and the manhunter Eileen Wernos.

One of the more fascinating cases is covered in the two-part episode arc in true lies.

After a body has discovered in Oregon's Columbia River Gorge, a grandmother

accuses her alcoholic boyfriend of being the killer.

Laverne Pavlanak even provides more details, fabricated evidence, anything to get John

Zosnofsky arrested.

She eventually talks herself into a confession which lands the two of them in prison.

Soon after, police and reporters get letters from someone else confessing to the crime.

Because of the peculiar doodles on the letters,

the media dubs him the happy face killer.

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