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Speaking of Psychology

Catching fire: What goes viral and why? With Jonah Berger, PhD

Speaking of Psychology

Kim Mills

Science, Life Sciences, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.5839 Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Why do some ideas, products, news stories and trends spread like wildfire, while others disappear? Jonah Berger, PhD, discusses the science of what catches on; the psychological forces that drive word of mouth, including social currency and high-arousal emotions like awe and anger; whether online and offline sharing differ; and what his research can tell us about the spread of misinformation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:30.4

Think about the last thing you shared online or via email with someone else.

0:34.9

A funny video on TikTok, a news story you thought your friends would

0:38.2

enjoy, or a new phrase you've been hearing everywhere.

0:41.8

Chances are you didn't share it randomly.

0:44.4

Something about it grabbed you and made you think, I have to pass this along.

0:49.1

Every day we're bombarded with information, stories, ideas, and words.

0:56.0

But we only feel compelled to share a fraction of that. Why? Why do some things catch on traveling through networks of conversations,

1:02.2

texts and social media, while others disappear? And what can psychology tell us about why we share

1:07.9

what we do? Do we share things differently online and in person?

1:12.5

How are the changing social media landscape and artificial intelligence affecting how ideas spread?

1:21.6

Welcome to Speaking of Psychology, the flagship podcast of the American Psychological Association

1:26.6

that examines the links between psychological science and everyday life.

1:30.3

I'm Kim Mills.

1:36.3

My guest today is Dr. Jonah Berger, a professor at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania,

1:42.3

and a leading researcher on word of mouth, social

1:45.5

influence, and how ideas spread. He's the author of four books including magic words,

1:51.9

What to Say to Get Your Way, and Contagious, Why Things Catch On. He's published more than 80

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