I would describe that as tough love and I want to get there through a radical

truthfulness. In other words, people say what they honestly mean and radical

transparency allows people to see things for themselves. So does that give rid of the office

expulsion? Politicking? There's a rule here that you can't talk behind anybody's

back. You do that three times. You're out of here. That is a man called Ray Dalio.

Ray Dalio, who is on 60 minutes and 90s, worth gazillions of dollars. Many, many

billions of dollars. One of the richest people in the world as an investor. But anyway,

he's into the whole radical honesty thing and they do not allow any gossip in the company.

You get caught twice and you get fired. And they're, well, I'm saying it beyond his

back. So how does he know? Gossip is, you go tell them, you tell them. Yes. The radical

honesty extends to the extent. Now, this is the idea that you go and say to so and so.

I don't think your division is keeping up and can eat better people or something instead

of keeping that to yourself and just complaining to others. Ah, I guess. But it goes to the

extent of they sit in meetings with their laptops open and you're giving a constant

score during the meeting about other people. And everybody's looking at their, that their

laptops and you're seeing the score about you and then you're putting scores on about

others. Wow. I that that seemed crazy to me. That's crazy to me. That's not

like that little twisty thing they do with focus groups listening to a politician. I'm

typing right now. Oh, Joe's really going on too long. But there was stuff like that. And

the he's and they asked him 60 minutes. They said to people say bad stuff about you and

he said, oh, especially bad stuff about me. But so you actually be sitting in a meeting

and you know how somebody asks a stupid question. Yeah. You just, you type down. That's

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