Casualties of History: "God sent Meat into the World for us Poor as well as Rich"

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🗓️ 27 April 2020

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

We cover chapters three and four—"Satan's Strongholds" and "The Free-Born Englishman." With guest John Bohstedt (author of The Politics of Provisions: Food Riots, Moral Economy, and Market Transition in England, 1550-1850) we discuss the history and logic of riots in early modern England: why did riots occur so frequently? What did they mean? And how did they relate to the widely held ideas about English liberties, which both contributed to and inhibited the development of popular radicalism?

Secondary Readings:

John Bohstedt, Riots and Community Politics in England and Wales, 1790–1810.

John Bohstedt, The Politics of Provisions: Food Riots, Moral Economy, and Market Transition in England, 1550–1850.

Edmund Burke, Reflections on the Revolution in France.

Douglas Hay, Peter Linebaugh, John G. Rule, E.P. Thompson, and Cal Winslow, Albion's Fatal Tree: Crime and Society in Eighteenth-Century England.

Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man: Being an Answer to Mr. Burke's Attack on the French Revolution.

George Rudé, The Crowd in History: A Study of Popular Disturbances in France and England, 1730–1848.

Charles Tilly, "Collective Violence in European Perspective."

E.P. Thompson, "The Moral Economy of the English Crowd in the Eighteenth Century.”

E.P. Thompson, Whigs and Hunters: The Origins of the Black Act.

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0:00.0	And Hello and welcome to casualties of history a podcast from Jack Venn magazine.
0:21.6	I'm Gabe Wienant here with my co-host Alex Press and today
0:25.2	we are discussing chapters 3 and 4 of the Making of the English working class. As always
0:31.4	you can join us on Slack to discuss the book by going to
0:36.0	Patreon.com slash casualties of history. You can listen to the podcast at
0:40.6	Blueberry, blU, BRR, Y.
0:43.8	dot com slash Jacobin.
0:46.7	And we have a guest today with us, John Bostett,
0:49.1	professor of history emeritus at University of Tennessee.
0:52.8	Welcome, John.
0:54.1	Hey, thanks for having me. Oh, John Bostett has taught history at the University of Tennessee since 1970.
1:21.2	What year did you say John?
1:22.2	79. 1970 what year did you say John? 79 and he is the author of a couple of books
1:29.0	maybe you could just say for us the names of a couple of your books. Riots and community politics in England and Wales 1790 to 1810.
1:38.0	And then my other book is The Politics of Provisions.
1:42.0	Great. And so chapter 3 is a lot of Why don't we start with a question about right towards the beginning of the chapter?
1:55.6	He talks about how the 18th century was sort of the age of riots.
1:59.6	And he actually says comparing it to written law versus sort of common notions of what's law.
2:06.0	He says on page 60, the distinction between the legal code and the unwritten popular code is a commonplace
2:11.8	at any time, but rarely have the two codes been
2:14.2	more sharply distinguished from each other than in the second half of the 18th century.
2:19.4	So why was this the age of riots?
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