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Oprah’s Book Club

Caste: Pillar 8

Oprah’s Book Club

Oprah and Apple Books

Society & Culture

3.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2020

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Part seven of Oprah’s discussion with Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Isabel Wilkerson and readers of the book, Caste: The Origins of our Discontents. The penultimate episode in the eight-part series focuses on the eighth and final pillar of Caste, "Inherent Superiority Versus Inherent Inferiority” which describes how the dominant caste were conditioned to believe that one group is superior and inherently deserving of the best in a given society. Isabel also explores why the dominant cast believes those deemed lowest are deserving of their plight.  David Holt, mayor of Oklahoma City, joins Oprah, Isabel and other guests to discuss how the caste system has impacted his city. 

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi everybody, together with Apple Books, welcome again to the Opers book club podcast

0:07.4

in our series on Isabel Wilkerson's magnificent book cast, The Origins of our Discontents.

0:14.9

Today we're talking about pillar eight and it's titled, Inherit Superiority versus Inherit

0:22.9

Inferiority.

0:23.9

Now, this is where the rubber meets the road.

0:26.8

Isabel breaks this down.

0:29.9

You write that beneath each pillar of cast was the presumption and continual reminder

0:38.0

of the inborn superiority of the dominant cast and the inherent inferiority of the subordinate.

0:47.0

It was not enough that the designated groups be separated for reasons of pollution or

0:52.8

that they not into Mary or that the lowest people suffer due to some religious curse,

0:58.9

but that it must be understood in every interaction that one group was superior and inherently

1:06.4

deserving of the best in a given society and that those who were deemed lowest were deserving

1:13.2

of their plight.

1:15.6

Wow.

1:16.6

Well, at every turn and in everyday encounters, signs and symbols and customs were used

1:21.7

to elevate the upper cast and demean the lower cast.

1:25.4

Can you describe some of these?

1:27.5

Well, we're all familiar with the colored only and the white only signs that existed

1:32.3

throughout this aftermath of that time.

1:33.9

One of the things that we may not pay as much attention to is that they went to the trouble

1:36.9

of making sure that the water fountains for white people, the dominant cast, were bigger,

1:42.8

looming over often the smaller, you know, lower, literally lower water fountain that would

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