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What A Day

Cash Bail Keeps People In Jail

What A Day

Crooked Media

News, Daily News

4.612K Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

This week, President Donald Trump signed an executive order aimed at ending cash bail in Washington D.C. and other jurisdictions around the country. He summarized the largely successful criminal justice reform policy like this: "They kill people and they get out." Well, it may come as a surprise (to no one) that this statement is… not accurate. All it means is that a person's release, before they stand trial, is NOT determined by how much money is in their wallet. But despite the data showing the policy works, Trump and his MAGA buddies want to end it. To gain a better understanding of all this, we spoke with Rena Karefa-Johnson, Vice President of National Initiatives at FWD.U.S.

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0:00.0

It's Friday, August 29th. I'm Josie Duffy Rice in for Jane Koston, and this is What a Day.

0:07.5

The show listening to the new John Baptiste song, Petrocore, which he described as a climate change warning set to a dance beat.

0:14.7

Appropriate, given that it is the 20th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina.

0:21.3

On today's show, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a major staffing

0:25.3

shakeup, and the Air Force offers military funeral honors for a January 6th rioter,

0:31.2

four and a half years after she was killed by an officer at the insurrection.

0:35.4

But let's start with cash bail.

0:37.4

This week, Trump signed an executive

0:39.5

order aimed at ending cash bail in Washington, D.C., and other jurisdictions around the country.

0:45.4

The order instructs his administration to withhold federal funds from the district, unless they

0:50.7

change their bail policy, which eliminates cash bail in most cases and has been in effect for over 30 years.

0:58.5

He also ordered Attorney General Pambandi to provide a list of states and localities that have ended cash bail for certain crimes

1:04.5

and instructed agencies to identify the federal grants and contracts and funds that could be withheld from those jurisdictions

1:11.9

unless they bring back cash bail. Here's what Trump, as well-spoken as ever, had to say about

1:18.5

the executive order. One of the executive orders has to do with cashless bail. That was when the

1:24.8

big crime in this country started. And I can tell you who did it, when, but I don't want to do that, because others followed pretty quickly.

1:34.3

But that was what had happened. Somebody killed somebody. They go, and don't worry about it. No cash. Come back in a couple of months. We'll give you a trial. You never see the person again. And, I mean, they kill people and they get out.

1:46.8

As you may not be surprised to hear, this is not accurate. Eliminating cash bail does not mean that people accused of serious crimes like murder can't be detained before trial.

1:58.7

All it means is that their release will not be determined by how much

2:01.8

money is in their wallet. Because in a cash bail system, people who can pay bail are released,

2:06.9

and people who can't are stuck in jail. And over the past 10 years, an increasing number of

2:11.3

jurisdictions have eliminated cash bail entirely. But although bail reform has been largely

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