Casey Legler: What does it take to emerge from darkness?
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BBC
4.3 • 538 Ratings
🗓️ 30 October 2019
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Summary
Imagine having an extraordinary sporting talent, but finding yourself traumatised by the realities of elite-level competition. Imagine being defined by your gender and physicality in ways that crushed your own sense of yourself. Stephen Sackur interviews former Olympic swimmer turned artist, model and now writer Casey Legler about their pain-filled early life, which included a prolonged battle with alcohol and drugs. What did it take to emerge from the darkness?
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to a podcast from the BBC World Service. This is Hard Talk with me, Stephen Sacker. |
| 0:06.6 | Thanks for downloading this edition of the program. I do hope you enjoy it. |
| 0:10.8 | Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. My guest today has written a memoir of her journey into adulthood, which is difficult to read so graphically well does it |
| 0:24.6 | capture the pain and trauma of growing up deeply unhappy and isolated. Casey Legler's youth was to a |
| 0:32.7 | large extent determined by her body. She was six feet two inches tall by the time she was 12, with long limbs and |
| 0:40.7 | remarkably large hands and feet. It was the perfect physique for a swimmer, but Casey hated the |
| 0:48.2 | reality of competitive swimming, the dehumanizing focus on discipline and physique. She rebelled. She began to drink alcohol to excess. |
| 0:57.0 | She started to take and then deal in drugs. Her swimming career came crashing down at the Atlanta Olympics in |
| 1:04.0 | 1996. Since then, she's conquered addiction, challenged conventional gender and sexual stereotypes, pursued a career in art |
| 1:13.9 | and in modelling at that. But how hard was it to emerge from the darkness? Well, Casey Legler |
| 1:23.1 | joins me in the studio now. Welcome to Hard Talk. Thanks for having me. You come here having just |
| 1:29.6 | written a rather extraordinary memoir of your early life, the first 21 years or so of your life. |
| 1:37.3 | It is raw, it is full of pain and it exposes some of the very dark places in your own life. How hard was it to |
| 1:48.8 | write? First, I just want to say that it's great to be here. I told you before we started that |
| 1:55.8 | I'm a huge fan, but my wife is a massive fan. And I've done, I grew up watching. It's great having |
| 2:03.4 | you here, but I fear that some of what we talk about is going to be quite tough. Yeah, and I knew |
| 2:09.7 | that. I do ask a lot of my reader. Five years ago, I truly sat down and decided to write this short memoir about growing up in |
| 2:22.2 | girlhood as a young Olympian, as a young addict. |
| 2:27.1 | Let's look back at the 10-year-old Casey Legler, raised primarily in France, although your |
| 2:33.3 | parents were American and your dad was a professional |
| 2:35.4 | sportsman. He was a basketball player. And by the age of 10, 11, 12, it was clear that your body, |
| 2:44.2 | your physique was pretty remarkable for a girl. You'd grown to be six foot tall. You had extraordinarily long limbs, big hands and feet. |
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