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Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

Cases That Haunt Us | The Unseen Burdens of First Responders

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

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True Crime

4.4 • 696 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2024

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Guest Bio and Links:

Joe Scott Morgan is a former death investigator, forensic professor at Jacksonville State University, and author. Joe is also the host of Body Bags with Joe Scott Morgan.

Joseph Giacalone is a retired NYPD sergeant, author, and adjunct professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. Joseph is also the host of True Crime with Sarge.

Lisa Ribacoff is a New York licensed private investigator and polygraph examiner, known for her expertise in handling sensitive cases.

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In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, Sheryl discusses the profound impact that traumatic cases have on first responders. Joined by Joe Scott Morgan, Joseph Giacalone, and Lisa Ribacoff, they dissect their battles with PTSD, the weight of unresolved cases, and the unseen scars left by their careers in forensic and law enforcement fields. They share poignant stories from the field and offer an unfiltered glimpse into the challenges and mental health struggles that come with their line of work.

This content may include explicit material. Listener discretion is advised.

Show Notes:

  • (0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
  • (1:00) Sheryl introduces this episode as “one for the first responders” 
  • (4:30) Sheryl introduces Joe Scott Morgan to Zone 7
  • (6:00) Joe discusses the last day at his job due to health issues
  • (13:00) Sheryl introduces Joe Giacalone to Zone 7 
  • (13:45) Joeseph shares his firsthand experiences from the gritty streets of New York City
  • (17:15) 1985 homicide of two boys is discussed 
  • (22:45) Sheryl introduces Lisa Ribacoff to Zone 7
  • (26:00) Lisa discusses the trauma experienced by polygraph examiners
  • (27:30) “I'm trained in identifying deception in handwriting and through stories. So I have to almost re-victimize myself in hearing this. And by the time the exam is done, I know if the individual committed said crime or did not commit said crime.”
  • Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, a Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

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0:00.0

Y'all know when you were maybe a new mom or had a new job or whatever was going on in your life

0:15.9

where you felt like you were the only person that had experienced something or felt a certain way. And when you got

0:24.4

to the right person who maybe had a similar story who felt like you did, it just helped you

0:32.5

somehow. Even if that person was a stranger, just to know you weren't alone.

0:39.0

You weren't crazy.

0:40.8

That's how I feel when I have the opportunity to sit and talk with, open my heart to people

0:48.2

that I love and admire and trust.

0:51.7

It just helps me not just in my career but every facet of my life so

0:58.6

tonight we have a very special zone 7 this is for those first responders that

1:04.9

have that case or five or 20 that stay with them. And tonight, I'm joined by some of the most stellar people

1:16.1

that I know. Thanks for having me, Cheryl. Yeah, thanks, Mack. Thanks for having us. Thanks for letting me be

1:21.2

here. I want to thank them all for being here and being a part of my Zone 7 and to share the cases that haunt them.

1:30.3

Y'all welcome and thank you so much.

1:33.3

This came about because Joe Scott and Joe Jackalone and I did a session at the Hamptons

1:40.3

who done it on this very topic and And here's what happened to me.

1:47.5

I'm sitting in the middle of those two fabulous men,

1:49.5

and I start telling my story.

1:55.4

And I think I got as far as it was a Monday,

1:59.3

and we arrived at 3783 Adamsville Drive,

2:04.2

and I could see in my peripheral Joe Scott turned and look at me.

2:12.7

And that's when it don't tell me. I'm telling a story that he was a part of. This has got to be one of the cases that haunts him too, but y'all I was already in it then. And I thought, man, I'm giving him too. But y'all, I was already in it then.

2:21.0

And I thought, man, I'm giving him double.

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