Case Files 20: Rady Children’s Part 4 with Dr. Mary Sanders

Nobody Should Believe Me

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🗓️ 29 May 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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In the 4th part of our Case Files series on Rady Children’s, Andrea and Dr. Mary Sanders from Stanford University deep dive into the emotional and legal complexities of child abuse cases. They unpack how surveillance in hospital settings—while potentially life-saving—raises big questions around privacy and consent. The conversation also explores the difficult dynamics of teenage victims, how hard these cases are to diagnose, and why the trust between parents and healthcare providers is often the first casualty. Andrea and Mary also examine how conspiracy theories infiltrate the courtroom and public opinion, warping our understanding of child welfare. From the strain on therapists to the trauma carried by kids in foster care and legal battles, this episode is a raw, thoughtful look at what happens when the system meant to protect children is itself under pressure. *** This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. *** Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop Buy Andrea's books here. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	True Story Media.
0:07.3	Just a quick reminder that my new book, The Mother Next Door, Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen
0:12.8	by proxy, is on sale right now wherever books are sold. The book was an Amazon editor's
0:18.9	pick for nonfiction, and the Seattle Times called it
0:21.5	a riveting deep dive into MVP. And if you are an audiobook lover, and you like hearing my voice,
0:27.4	which I'm assuming you do since you're listening here, you should know that I narrate the
0:31.4	audiobook as well. If you have already read the book, which I know so many of you have, thank you so
0:37.0	much. Please let me know your thoughts
0:38.8	and questions at hello and nobody should believe me.com. And we will bring my co-author,
0:43.6	Detective Mike Weber, on for a little book Q&A and post-retirement tell all special. Thanks for
0:49.4	your support. Hello, it's Andrea. And today we have a conversation with a fantastic expert we've had on the show a number of times, Dr. Mary Sanders, to help us unpack the complicated situation that we have been covering with Reedy Children's Hospital.
1:07.3	Mary is one of the very first people I met in the field of child abuse, and I appreciate her perspective and wisdom so much.
1:14.4	We will have one more episode on this case next week, and then season six is coming June 19th.
1:20.8	And just a reminder that if you want to listen to the whole thing on June 19th, you can subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Patreon, and we will have the whole thing
1:29.2	ready for you to binge on that date. I wanted to take a moment and thank you for all of the
1:35.5	feedback on these episodes about Radies and let you know that we hear you. Nobody should
1:40.5	believe me is an independent production and it's an ambitious one. So we always appreciate feedback from our very smart, very thoughtful listeners.
1:49.0	We're going to be back after season six with some additional coverage on this case as we get more information
1:55.0	and we're going to talk to an expert in Potts and EDS to get a clearer picture of the diagnoses that are central to this case.
2:02.6	We are also hoping to get the lawyers from this case on, but that can be complicated when there is ongoing litigation.
2:08.6	But please rest assured, we will have a knowledgeable lawyer on here to discuss the legal complexities of this case because they are legion. If you have specific questions or comments about this case or want to share your own experiences with Potts and EDS as a number of you have done, please do so.
2:26.3	The very best way to make sure we get this feedback is to send us an email or voice memo to hello at nobody should believe me.com, but we also monitor comments on
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