Carvell Wallace on Another Word for Love
How To! with Mike Pesca
Peach Fish Projects
4.3 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 30 April 2024
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
On this episode of How To!: co-hosts Courtney Martin and Carvell Wallace sit down to talk about his new memoir, Another Word for Love. In the book, Carvell's examination of his own journey becomes a reflection on how so many of us spend our lives trying to become whole again. He and Courtney discuss his approach to writing and interviewing, what it means to be seen as good (versus actually being good), and why it's often so hard to forgive yourself.
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| 0:23.7 | Coming to headphones near you on April 17th, with a first guest you won't want to miss. Available wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times when I don't know what's right, I just start describing something. You know, I just like describe a bird or the sky or the moon or a day or a shoe or whatever. |
| 0:38.4 | I just start describing it. |
| 0:39.3 | And then I start to see, okay, well, what's this really about? |
| 0:42.9 | After it's together, then my job is to figure out what it all means. |
| 0:46.1 | So it's like I create from a creative mode. |
| 0:47.9 | Then I stop creative mode. |
| 0:49.3 | I put on like the critic hat. |
| 0:51.0 | And then I go back in it with new eyes and start to shape it into something |
| 0:54.4 | that sort of ties together. |
| 1:00.6 | Welcome to how to. I'm Courtney Martin. All right, guys, today we have something a little different |
| 1:07.0 | for you. I'm very excited about this. My co-host, Carvel Wallace, has a beautiful |
| 1:11.9 | memoir coming out. It's called Another Word for Love. There's so much in this book that I want |
| 1:18.6 | to talk to him about, more than we could possibly cover in one sit-down conversation. But I think |
| 1:23.1 | you're going to get a lot out of hearing Carvel talk about his journey as a writer and podcaster |
| 1:28.1 | and how he got so damn emotionally insightful. I hope you enjoy this little peek behind the curtain. |
| 1:38.1 | I wanted to hear more about your writing journey because I know you've done a bunch of different |
| 1:42.9 | things career-wise. When did you first start writing publicly? |
| 1:47.0 | I didn't get paid to write until I was like 40. |
| 1:50.0 | I tried to write a book when I was a kid and I wrote like a chapter that I still have. |
| 1:55.0 | So when I look back on that, I'm like, oh, I actually wanted to be writer for a long time. |
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