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Great Lives

Cartoonist Naji al-Ali

Great Lives

BBC

Documentary, History, Society & Culture

4.21.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Naji al-Ali was one of the best known cartoonists in the Arab world. His creation, a little boy called Handala, always stands with his back to the viewer, hands behind his back, watching whatever Naji al-Ali has drawn. He's been picked by the Pulitzer prize winning data journalist Mona Chalabi - but is she picking the artist, or his creation, the observant little boy?

Joining Mona in studio to discuss a life that was cut short is the cartoonist Martin Rowson. Naji al-Ali was assassinated in London in 1987 at just fifty years of age. The case remains unresolved. A powerful programme that includes the voice of Naji al-Ali's son plus news archive from 1987 and 2017, the thirtieth anniversary of his death.

The producer in Bristol is Miles Warde

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:07.2

Things just swirling around my head.

0:09.6

Am I really the product of this?

0:12.1

Astonishing secrets uncovered by at-home DNA tests.

0:17.0

Little did I know what more was to come.

0:19.5

I'm Jenny Clemen, and in the new series of The Gift, we'll hear more stories emerging

0:25.2

out of the ever-expanding global DNA database.

0:28.8

They did know that I was different.

0:31.7

You had kids together.

0:33.0

Yeah.

0:33.5

Then you met.

0:34.3

Then we met.

0:35.2

The Gift.

0:36.1

Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:39.3

Today's guest is an illustrator and a data journalist, skills that she's combined so successfully that she won the Pulitzer Prize.

0:48.2

That was for a New York Times magazine piece called Nine Ways to Imagine Jeff Bezos's Wealth.

0:55.1

The mind boggles, but Jeff is not our great life today.

0:58.9

Welcome Mona Chilabi to our show.

1:01.5

Whom have you picked and why?

1:03.6

I have picked Najee Al-Ali, a great, great, great artist.

1:07.2

Can you remember when you first became aware of his work?

1:10.7

I think I was 20 or 21 and I saw a

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