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Masters in Business

Carson Block on the Short-Selling Market (Podcast)

Masters in Business

Bloomberg

Business, Entrepreneurship, Investing

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2021

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Bloomberg Opinion columnist Barry Ritholtz speaks with Carson Block, who is the chief investment officer of Muddy Waters Capital LLC, an activist investment firm with $261 million in assets under management. Block was featured in the book "The Most Dangerous Trade: How Short Sellers Uncover Fraud, Keep Markets Honest, and Make and Lose Billions" and the documentary "The China Hustle," and is the co-author of "Doing Business in China for Dummies."

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0:00.0

This is Masters in Business with Barry Reynolds on Bloomberg Radio.

0:09.3

This week on the podcast, oh I have an extra special guest.

0:13.2

His name is Carson Block and he is a Choos A Adjective.

0:19.6

Brilliant, revered, notorious short seller.

0:23.8

Say what you will about him.

0:24.8

I find him to be an absolutely fascinating guy.

0:27.9

I am a big fan of short sellers and have interviewed a number of them.

0:32.6

I find they are the ones who uncover fraud in all its guises often when various regulators

0:42.1

are missing it.

0:43.1

So whether we're talking about Jim Chanos or David Einhorn or go down the list of all

0:49.0

the various short sellers, Carson Block clearly joins that pantheon of greatness.

0:56.6

He has uncovered a huge number of frauds.

1:01.4

He talks about how China has allowed all sorts of fraudulent companies to go public and then

1:08.6

the New York Stock Exchange and other US regulators allow these companies that are essentially

1:15.4

shells with nothing really happening going on to be publicly listed in the States where

1:22.6

they manage to effectively steal money from investors and he is absolutely blunt and

1:30.2

vociferous in his criticism.

1:32.8

He has uncovered a number of spectacular frauds that collapsed often to the point of being

1:39.9

delisted publicly.

1:42.4

In other words, they just went bankrupt.

1:44.8

So I found this to be really a fascinating conversation and I think you will also with

1:50.3

no further ado, my conversation with Muddy Waters, Carson Block.

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