Hello and welcome to Ono Ross and Carrie, the show where we don't just report on French

science, spirituality and claims of the paranormal, but take part ourselves.

Yep, and then make the claims we shall see you don't have to.

I'm Carrie Poppy.

I'm Ross Blanchard, and sometimes we make the claims and show up as we have done this

time.

Yeah, kind of.

So we have gone to this place before the center of excellence and gotten certificates

in stuff.

Yes, the center of excellence.

Yeah, before we both got certified.

As natural paths.

That's right.

And so this is a website online and listeners send us this a lot because they'll see ads

for these various courses that you can take and get certification diplomas, things

that sound pretty fancy.

If you just print them out and put them in what do you call that a frame?

Frame.

He's making frames with his fingers.

Yeah, Frank, thank you.

This is going to be a difficult episode, but I'm glad you're here to help me.

Yeah, so they do all sorts of online courses.

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