Carragher on Sacchi: The Genius Who Revolutionised Football
It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast
The Overlap
4.9 • 667 Ratings
🗓️ 1 October 2024
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was.
Special guest and Liverpool legend Jamie Carragher join hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper as they explore the legacy of one of football’s most iconic managers: Arrigo Sacchi.
Widely regarded as one of the greatest minds in the sport, Sacchi led AC Milan to back-to-back European Cup triumphs in the late 1980s, building a team that Carragher grew up idolising.
In this episode, Carragher discusses Sacchi's profound influence on football, how his revolutionary tactics reshaped the game, and the impact they had on Carragher's own playing career.
Together, the trio provides an in-depth analysis of Sacchi’s extraordinary career and his lasting mark on the sport.
Next week we dig even deeper into the genius of Sacchi, as Jonathan and Rob kick off their special four-part series on his life, starting with his early years.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to It Was What It Was, with me, Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson. |
| 0:10.6 | And this is a very special edition because we're starting a multi-part series on a historical figure |
| 0:17.7 | what I think we consider the most important in European history. He's really the |
| 0:22.6 | founder of everything we watch today. He's the man that Juergen Klopp said he completely changed |
| 0:28.4 | the way we view football. We're going to be focusing on the life and history of the Italian coach |
| 0:33.6 | Origo Saki. And as if that wasn't special enough, we've got a fantastic guest to |
| 0:39.2 | discuss Arrigo Saki with. I think there's only one man in the world more assessed with |
| 0:44.3 | O'Igo Saki than Jonathan Wilson, and it's our guest today. He played 737 times for Liverpool, |
| 0:50.2 | including memorably once in a Champions League final Istanbul, 38 caps for England, one of UEFA League Cup and FA Cup treble in one season, |
| 0:59.5 | two FA Cups and three league cups in total. |
| 1:02.3 | Not only that, he went on to be a football pundit. |
| 1:05.5 | I was going to say that the greatest football pundit of the modern era, |
| 1:09.0 | but Gary Neville does actually own a company that produces a podcast, and let's just say he's in the top two. It is, of course, Jamie Carragher. Jamie, thanks so much for coming on and welcome to the show. Thanks for having me, Jonathan. Rob, you're doing a great job so far. Hopefully I can just add to the quality that he's produced so far. Thank you. So you've been over to Fuzignano. |
| 1:29.5 | You spent time with Saki. |
| 1:30.9 | I went over a long time ago now. |
| 1:32.2 | I think it was 2006 I went over. |
| 1:34.1 | So why is it that you think he's so great? |
| 1:36.5 | Why are we making the pilgrimage over to the farmhouse where he still lives in northern Italy? |
| 1:42.1 | I think there's two reasons. |
| 1:43.9 | I think the first reason is I think for a lot of people, |
| 1:48.0 | maybe before Pepoariola came onto the scene, |
| 1:52.0 | the AC Milan team that he produced, |
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