Carr Hagerman - Out Of The Blue
Penn's Sunday School
Penn's Sunday School
4.8 • 5.6K Ratings
🗓️ 10 June 2026
⏱️ 104 minutes
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Summary
Penn's friend of more than 50 years, Carr Hagerman, shares his deeply personal story of being falsely accused. From the initial allegations and arrest, through a very public reaction and trial, to his acquittal and trying to find a way to move forward with hope and inspiration.
Check out Carr's podcast at outofthebluepodcast.com
Please note: this episode contains discussion of sexual abuse (child and adult), incarceration, and suicidal ideation.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Penn Sunday School. |
| 0:04.0 | And to our listening ears, |
| 0:07.0 | All nature sings and round the streets, the music on the streets, |
| 0:11.0 | The music on the street |
| 0:14.0 | It's this, |
| 0:15.0 | And Sunday School |
| 0:17.0 | Brother, sisters, siblings, welcome to Penn Sunday School. |
| 0:20.0 | I'm Matt Donnelly. We're broadcasting from, well, I think, all over the place, right? |
| 0:24.6 | We got Minnesota, Las Vegas, Los Angeles. |
| 0:27.6 | We're here with Penn's good friend Carr Hagerman is on the show. |
| 0:32.6 | Carr, of course, the author of a fascinating subsack, and goes way back to the Renaissance Fair Days with Penn. |
| 0:39.3 | Here he is, Preaching the Love, brought to you by Masterclass, Penn Gillette. |
| 0:44.5 | Yeah, this is me, preaching, preach in love, and brought to you by Masterclass.com slash |
| 0:53.2 | Penn. Lifelong learning from Masterclassclass we'll talk more about that now i have so much to say |
| 1:01.8 | about and to car car has been my friend uh forever is thaty-four. You were 17 when we met. |
| 1:12.3 | Yeah. I was 17 and you were how old? |
| 1:15.7 | 14. Yeah. |
| 1:17.4 | In the middle of the last century. We go way back. |
| 1:20.5 | That's crazy. |
| 1:21.7 | Yeah, 1974 was my first year performing at the Renaissance Festival, |
| 1:28.9 | and he and Teller and Weir were there with the Asparagus Valley that first year. |
| 1:33.1 | And then we became friends, I think, more on the second year when you and Teller where that's... |
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