Hey everyone. How are you? It's Jess of fat mascara. Okay, so she's in the building. Caroline's in the

building. This is her second time on fat mascara. We also did a live with her during the pandemic,

which was kind of a bright spot. But Caroline's back,

and why is she back? Because her episode was the most listened to Fat Mascar episode in our 10

years of doing the show, which is wild. And I think that is something to really brag about.

She's always frank. She's always funny. And she is very much unfiltered. So we're going to talk to her, and we're also going to talk about her brand skin rocks, which she didn't belly balancing a microphone in my home studio during the pandemic.

Nice. Yeah.

That pandemic we thought would all be over in two months.

I know. I know.

Craziness.

Like rotting fruit on my desk. Tell me, when we spoke to you, it was like Skin Rocks was just launching. Okay. We launched in November 22, so that's three and a half years ago. Yeah, it was a long time ago. So tell me, it's been like a rocket ship for you. It's been intense. It's a lot. What are you liking better?

What is your day like?

Are you... No two days are the same. me it's been like a rocket ship for you. It's been intense. It's a lot. What are you liking better?

What is your day like? Are you? No two days are the same. But that's kind of fun. Spinning plates, putting out fires. A lot of it's putting out fires, which I just think I've learned has come part and pass it with being a brand founder because every brand founder I know says the same thing. It's not like you have a job description. You're just putting at fires.

No. My job description is, oh, while I've got you, oh, five minutes from the team. But no complaints.

The brand's doing really well. Is it mostly managing people? Did you expect that?

Yeah, but we have a lot of people. So it's a handful. But I'd rather do this than work corporate any day of the week. I was literally at a dinner last night talking to two

people. One of them is in media, but she owns her own media company, like small media. And the

other one is also got a media jack-of- jack of all trades kind of thing. And they were

talking about these nightmare stories. And it was just like, never be a founder. Don't go here like

medieval like that, whatever the expression is like don't dare cross. Because they were talking

about running your own thing. And I was like, this is really scary guys.

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