Caroline Bourgeois on Marlene Dumas

The Great Women Artists

Katy Hessel

Arts

4.8 • 944 Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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In episode 88, and the SEASON FINALE of Season 7 of The Great Women Artists Podcast, Katy Hessel interviews the esteemed curator, Caroline Bourgeois on MARLENE DUMAS! *BOOK NEWS!* I have written a book! Order The Story of Art without Men here: https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-story-of-art-without-men/katy-hessel/9781529151145 **This episode is brought to you by Alighieri jewellery: www.alighieri.com | use the code TGWA20 at checkout for 20% off!•• A painter of the face, the figure and the human psyche and form, Marlene Dumas is one of the most influential painters alive today. Collecting raw emotion and translating it visually onto the canvas through paint, Dumas derives her work from second hand images. In turn, she creates internal portraits that trigger every sense in your body. Contradictory and complex, verging on the sublime and full of seduction, they are also enveloped in pain. Made without any prior studies, she holds a feeling, an emotion, movement and life in the second of the moment. Although her figures are still, it is like they are moving, and although they are immortalised, it is like they are breathing. I couldn't be more excited to say that she is the artist who we will be discussing today with Caroline Bourgeois, the curator of "Marlene Dumas: Open––End” at Palazzo Grassi in VENICE!! https://www.palazzograssi.it/en/exhibitions/current/open-end-marlene-dumas/ I was astonished going round this exhibition at Palazzo Grassi. I have seen a few works in the flesh by Dumas, but walking around, it was electrifying. Not only do these paintings pulsate with colour and exude sensuality, but they appear full of motion. Dumas captures this raw, internal human emotion that is at once full of strength but vulnerability. Not existing in any physical space, her works teeter on the threshold between life and death, internal and the external… It is like they are memories that are familiar, protective, but also ghoulish and haunting. LIST OF PAINTINGS DISCUSSED HERE: https://www.palazzograssi.it/site/assets/files/9808/guide_marlene-dumas_eng.pdf ENJOY!!! Follow us: Katy Hessel: @thegreatwomenartists / @katy.hessel Sound editing by Nada Smiljanic Research assistant: Viva Ruggi Artwork by @thisisaliceskinner Music by Ben Wetherfield https://www.thegreatwomenartists.com/

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0:00.0	Hello, great men artists listeners, it's Katie here, and just before we get into today's episode,
0:06.0	the season finale of season seven, I want to let you know some very exciting news. I have written
0:12.4	a book, which is out this September. The story of art without men aims to retell art history
0:18.0	with pioneering non-male artists who spearheaded movements and redefined a
0:23.1	canon. It is available to pre-order now from Waterstones and more, and I have linked to the book
0:28.5	in the show notes. But in this series, I am so delighted to be continuing my partnership with the
0:34.2	brilliant Alligieri Jewelry, who have been supporting the GWA podcast for the
0:39.0	past two years. Alighieri creates fragmented talismans of imperfection, hand cast in London's
0:45.3	hat and garden from recycled silver and gold. The brand was founded by Rosh Matani to guide her
0:51.3	through a dark time. Each piece has a story and invites you to unlock your own.
0:56.2	For this last episode of the season, Roche has recorded a wonderful message for us,
1:01.0	with a very special mention of up to 20% of Alighieri products with the code T-G-W-A-20
1:08.8	at checkout. Visit Aligieri.com for more, and I hope you enjoy this episode.
1:14.9	It's been absolutely magical to partner with the great women artists over the last 18 months.
1:20.7	Celebrating the magic of female creatives as a female founder is an absolute dream come true.
1:31.9	And to celebrate the last episode of the season, we'd love to offer the Great Women Artists listeners a 20% off all their purchases for this week on Alligari.com.
1:42.5	Hello everyone and welcome to the Great Women Artist podcast with me, Katie Hessel.
1:48.8	Some of you might know me from The Great Women Artists, an Instagram account I set up in October 2015,
1:54.5	which celebrates female artists on a daily basis, ranging from young graduates to old masters.
2:00.6	Well, in a similar fashion to the Instagram,
2:03.3	this podcast is all about celebrating female artists from a variety of backgrounds and histories.
2:09.0	And I'm so excited to be interviewing artists on their career or artists, writers, curators,
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