This is Ovious and Jillio.

Let's podcast alongside Joe Jillio.

I'm Joe Ovious inside Eifford Studios in downtown Raleigh.

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Actual humans on the phone. I've got the phone right here, the old school

phone. Curse or don't. There's a lot of cursing, by the way, in Philadelphia. Imagine if the

sports, imagine if we were in Philadelphia and we did a sports phone. It would be nothing. It'd be not

curse or don't, just curse. Just absolutely curse. Just like I was cursing on I-95 on the way back

down. I don't know how people do it. That drive is awful, man. I'm always reminded of how awful that drive is. You know how McDonald's now has an app or someone created an app? You tell you where the ice cream machines are working and when they're not. Yeah. I need someone to create an app that lets you know which direction

the Hove Lane is going through D.C. because I missed it on Saturday and I missed it on Sunday.

And I was excited on Saturday fighting through it going, well, at least I'll have it tomorrow.

No. No. No. It was like a big fuck you yesterday.

Like, oh, no, no, no, you can't have the hove.

You can't.

H to the Izzo.

I've never, in my experience, I don't think I've ever driven in the direction where the big

HOV lane is open.

I don't think I've ever done that.

I also think I made a mistake driving up in that I'm not an easy pass user. Oh, no, no, no. Oh, sir. A, it costs more when you don't have an easy pass, number one. Number two, it saves a considerable amount of time when you have it. And you know, you have to have it.

I should. Usually I'm a bill by mail person because I don't feel like I'd do it enough. Okay.

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