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It is three minutes after 10. Good morning. I know I do this a lot, but just bear with me for a moment.

Do you think that in a normal country,

the failure of a former Prime Minister to hand over information to a, is it a judicial inquiry,

to an official inquiry into the handling of the COVID pandemic,

do you think the failure of a prime minister to hand over information demanded and set to a

deadline to an official inquiry into a pandemic, the governmental handling of a pandemic, his handling of a

pandemic that killed tens of thousands of people, do you think that would be a slightly

bigger story? I'm just genuinely asking you, because you know me, I don't trust my antennae,

or indeed my new sense, but do you think that in a normal country, we can all agree this is not a

normal country. Nadine Dorries was Secretary of State for Culture not long ago and Jacob Rees-Mogg

spent 10 minutes as Secretary of State for Business. So we know we're not a normal country anymore.

We will be again, hopefully sooner rather than later. But do you think that in a normal country, that would be a rather

bigger story than some of the stories getting acres of coverage? Imagine for a moment if the

owners and editors of the Daily Mail and the Sun decided that a former prime minister

failing to hand over information demanded by an official inquiry

into his handling of an event that killed thousands of people was actually quite a big story.

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