I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

But I will bear true faith and allegiance to the sea that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion and that I will will inflate the lead discharge.

The duties of the office on which I am about to enter.

So help me God, so help me God.

So help me God.

Welcome to the oath. I'm Chuck Rosenberg and I am honored to be your host for another compelling conversation with a fascinating guest from the World of Public Service.

This week, my guest is Carol Lamb, a former judge and federal prosecutor in California.

Soon after graduating from Stanford Law School, Carol found a job she loved in the Justice Department as a federal prosecutor in San Diego, where she handled complex healthcare fraud investigations.

And though she enjoyed the work, she later accepted an appointment to the California Superior Court Bench from Governor Gray Davis.

Carol envisioned a long tenure as a judge, a difficult and complex job.

But that all changed when she became the presidentially appointed United States Attorney for the Southern District of California, the office in which she started as a prosecutor.

Carol is a thoughtful and contemplative public servant with important insights into our criminal justice system from two very different perspectives.

She is also my colleague on NBC and MSNBC, where she is a legal analyst.

Carol Lamb, welcome to the oath.

Thank you very much, Chuck.

Real pleasure to have you on the show.

Pleasure to be here.

So where are you from?

I am originally from New York City. I was born there as were my three siblings.

But my parents are from China. They were both born there and both immigrated here in the 1940s.

So you and your siblings are all first generation American.

That's right.

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