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Carol at Guardian is the author of Vera. Carol's novels include, obviously, the newly released Vera, the New York Times bestseller,

Three Stages of Amazement, and the international bestseller, Rise the Euphrates, winner of the

ANC Freedom Prize. Her work has been described by the Washington Post as notable

for its generosity of spirit, intelligence, humanity, and finally ambition. Her articles and

essays have appeared in the Wall Street Journal, NPR and W, among many others, and she co-edited

the popular collective drawn from writers' diaries called The Writer's Life, Intimate Thoughts

on Work, Love, Inspiration, and Fame.

My gosh, I have to get that.

Carol is co-founder of the nonprofit Narrative, narrative, narrative magazine.com, a leading digital

publisher of fiction, poetry, and art, and of narrative in the schools, which provides

free libraries and writing resources for teachers and students around the world.

Carol lives with her family in San

Francisco, which as you will see in her novel takes center stage. Welcome, Carol. Thank you so much

for coming on moms and have time to read books to discuss Vera. Thank you. It's so good to be here.

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