What's up,

good to see you?

Good to be back, Joe.

You're still alive.

You've been eating nothing but meat and you're still alive.

I am still alive.

Douters be gone.

Yeah, yeah.

When I just eat mostly meat, I feel so much better. I mean, maybe it's anecdotal, maybe it's

just me and you, and many other people that do it, but there's something to it but you're an extreme

example because you have been doing it now for how many years so I'm starting my

eighth year so just just, 8 year.

Yeah, so when I came to see you last time, it was six years ago.

So I had been just finished seven years now.

So yeah, it's been a while.

And people should know that you're, you're actually a doctor, you're an orthopedic surgeon and you didn't at

one point in time they took your license away because you were providing medical

information but you got it back? Yeah it was kind of an interesting thing so when I was I was

practicing medicine busy orthopedic surgeon you know plugging away doing a thing and

then I started realizing hey I can have people avoid surgery by changing their diet

and their pain went away I was like you don't need surgery.

Well that is not what hospitals want you to do. They want you to you know keep the

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