This is an IHeart podcast.

Guaranteed Human.

I wanted her love so bad,

and she couldn't love me enough to tell me the truth.

Even before she died.

No,

No, no. I'm Andrea Gunning, and this is betrayal, a show about the people we trust the most,

and the deceptions that change everything.

Carmen Rita Wong grew up in New York in the 70s.

Her earliest memories are of her mom, Lupe.

Lupe was glamorous.

She was always dressed to the nines and the red lipstick.

She, along with my grandmother, my abuela, both from the Dominican Republic, were seamstresses for Oscar de la Renta, who was Dominican and employed a lot of the Dominican women immigrants to New York City.

Oscar de Laurentia was one of the most expensive and exclusive designers in the world.

First ladies and movie stars wore his designs.

And they dressed up to be seamstresses.

My abuela as well, always in an Oscar suit that she'd probably made with her own hands.

Carmen was raised in Harlem, and she's proud of where she came from.

The neighborhood we lived in was mostly Dominican immigrants, Puerto Rican, basically of all

colors.

So for me, going to daycare, being around my cousins lived across the street, my grandfather's

cleaners was on the corner, and we all just coexisted in a very great supportive way.

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