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Is talking to Santana, like, kind of one of your top-top dream interviews?

You know, it's difficult because I know too much.

You know?

Like, how do you not sound like a stalker know too much?

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly.

Or how to make the conversation accessible to everybody who doesn't know as much as, you know,

diehard Santana fans do.

That's a little difficult because there's, you know, he's a complex guy and there's a long career.

And it's sort of like Duke Ellington where you can like have different aspects of his career

based on what year. Duke Ellington, Miles Davis, all of those people, in fact, some of the people

that he actually admires, it's that way. You kind of think about where you want to dip your

toe in. It was really cool, I think, to get that sense from you.

Because I feel like up until now, a lot of the people we've interviewed

have very much been, like, a lot more in my lane

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