It's a Thursday edition of Pro Football Talk Live, Valle Condios Carlos Dunlap on his way to Seattle. He wanted out. He got out. A guy who's been a cornerstone for the Cincinnati Bengals, been with the team since 2010, had been making noise and had gotten his way. We see that more and more now in the NFL. Who's we're going to see for the next two hours. It's Pro Football Talk Live. Chris Sims, Mike Florio. Hello to our audience on Peacock, Series XM211. Good morning to you. NBCSN, future audience, 9 Eastern for the rear podcast crew. Always happy to entertain you and our good friends in the UK and in Ireland watching the program on Sky Sports. They've had their time change already there. Something weird happened yesterday. PFT Live was on for two hours, followed immediately by a live PFT PM. So they had a three-hour block. And if they haven't thrown their TVs out the window into the river, Thames, is it Thames? It's spelled Thames, but it's pronounced Thames. If they haven't done that,

then maybe we're making progress there. Good morning, Chris. How are you? I'm doing good, man. How you doing? Yep. I mean, you're right. You know, we've officially hit the big time on Peacock. I mean, it's really, it's pretty cool. I was, I was proud that I was actually on there last night. That That was cool. Now, here's the thing, though,

I got a bone to pick with you about this. You're on Peacock four nights a week, but none of it's live. Not if it's live. Hey, sorry. I don't know. I mean, they haven't asked me. What could I do? I don't run the damn thing, okay? I'm just doing what I'm told. So I don't know how you got looped into that, but I have not been asked to do anything live. Sorry.

Well, I'm fine with that. It's not like I have a long commute back to the studio or anything like that to do a live show at five o'clock.

Stop complaining. You have you don't you like work. You you brag about no days off. You don't you didn't go in your pool this summer. So, I mean,

nobody cares. Just keep working. Shush it.

Pool's still open. We hit clothes in the pool because then the leaves get in it. It gets nasty

because the way the pool is built, you can't really put a cover on it. So it's just open elements all winter long

and it gets nasty and it gets that green water. And so we try to keep it open as long as we can.

Although once the temperature dips below 32, then you have a little bit of a problem.

Oh, gosh. My pool covers. I don't have the right pool cover. Oh, my gosh. Well, no, all I'm saying is, all I'm saying is once it's freezing out, the pool no longer becomes a pool. The pool becomes a skating rink, which, you know, if I could skate, that would be an interesting way to pass the time. This is an interesting way to pass the time for you, or at least it will get more interesting once we start talking about football. Let's get back to Carlos Dunlap. Let's do it. On his way to Seattle, he wanted out. B.J. Finney in a seventh round draft pick become the compensation for the Cincinnati Bengals. Let's look at this first from the Seahawks angle. We wondered why they weren't in on Evanston Griffin. Well, now we know. They were in on Carlos Dunlap. And I don't know what they're

getting. I was on KJR radio last night in Seattle. I do a spot there every Wednesday evening, my time, late afternoon, their time, time change and all that. And they're like, well, what are they getting in this guy? Is it better with him or would they have been better off at the draft pick and BJ?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I mean, they're the ones who are scouting the guy. They're the ones who are making the decision that he still got gas in the tank. The problem is you get a pass rusher at this stage of his career. You don't know what you're getting, Chris. There's only one way to find out.

You put him on the field and you see.

No, you're right.

I mean, I'm sure they did their due diligence.

I mean, there's evidence out there of what he looks like.

You know, that's partly what I do. You know, when I saw the trade happened yesterday, that's what I did. I went back and I said, let me start watching some Carlos Dunlap plays just to get a look for him, just really study and hone in on him. You know, I think they made the right move here. First off, seventh round pick, you know, you're not going to get that type of player for Carlos Dunlap. I mean, it's rare. I understand it can happen. But they're in the middle of a Super Bowl run. And I think they look at it and go, wait, this year is up for grabs and we're good. and we arguably have the best player in the game as far as Russell Wilson's concern.

So let's go for it. You know, Dung Lapp fell out

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