Carl Trueman On Gays And Personal Identity

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Andrew Sullivan

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🗓️ 16 December 2022

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Carl Trueman is a Christian theologian and ecclesiastical historian. He’s currently a professor of biblical and religious studies at Grove City College, as well as an ordained minister in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church. He’s the author of many books, but in this episode, we discuss The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self (a condensed version of which just came out: Strange New World: How Thinkers and Activists Redefined Identity and Sparked the Sexual Revolution). It’s been a hit on the paleocon right.

For two clips of our convo — on our disagreement over the nature of gayness, and whether gay marriages adversely affect straight marriages — pop over to our YouTube page. Other topics: Augustine, Aquinas, Martin Luther and the printing press, Pascal, Calvin, Rousseau, mimesis vs. poiesis, Darwin, Freud, the Frankfurt School, postmodernism, Charles Taylor, contraception, Reagan and no-fault divorce, reactionaries, and sodomy. Yeah, sodomy.

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0:00.0	Thank you. Hey there.
0:29.9	For the first time in a while, I feel actually kind of almost healthy, which is a really lovely thing to feel.
0:36.8	The sun is shining.
0:38.7	The respect for marriage act is being signed today as we speak, which is kind of interesting,
0:46.3	given my guest today.
0:47.6	But nonetheless, it's a good day from my point of view.
0:50.6	There's a wild and massive celebration of the White House to which I have
0:55.6	not been invited, which is fine by me. And I'm glad to be back. Today, we have, I hope,
1:03.3	a really challenging guest. We have others coming up. We have Glenn Lowry coming up,
1:07.1	someone I've always wanted to interview. And also John Gray, the British writer philosopher,
1:12.2	who is also of my top 10 people I've wanted to have on the dishcast. He's also coming up.
1:20.4	But today, Carl Truman, he's a Christian theologian and ecclesiastical historian.
1:28.3	It's currently a professor of biblical and religious studies at Grove City College,
1:32.8	as well as an ordained minister in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church.
1:37.5	He's the author of many books, but today we're going to discuss one that comes up a lot recently,
1:47.6	certainly in my emails, and to some extent also in some of the bloggers and writers like Rod Dreher and the integralists and all the new
1:53.1	conservative sort of Catholic types. This book has become a bit of a hit, a bit of sensation
1:58.2	almost. It's called The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self.
2:01.6	And they just, I'm told, produced a condensed version.
2:05.6	Is that right, Carl?
2:06.6	Yes.
2:07.6	It's called Strange New World, How thinkers and activists redefined identity and sparked the sexual revolution.
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