Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to a bonus episode of the Waveform podcast. So just

dropped a video on the channel today and exclusive revealing the design of the OnePlus Nord

phone coming up and talking about prices of smartphones and product strategy things

like that. So for this bonus episode, it's the whole conversation. So I'm chatting with

Carl Paye, co-founder of OnePlus. And we'll talk about product philosophy, their strategy

on how things work over there, how they make decisions for a new product. And we really

get into the weeds on all that stuff. So I feel like I learned a lot during this hour,

even though we recorded this at 7am local time. I will be keeping a lot of this info with

me. Check it out.

All right, Carl, thank you for joining me. It's a, there's a pretty big time difference

between you and I. So I'm up pretty early. You're up pretty late, but we made it work.

Yeah, thanks for getting in with this early to do this. No problem. So I think we're all,

we're here because you get, you guys are, you're working on a new product line. One

plus Nord. I think all we really know about it as of right now as we're recording. This

is the name is Nord. And then there's all sorts of speculation about what exactly it is.

So why don't we just get right into it and just, just tell me what you can about what OnePlus

Nord is, what you've been working on, what we should know now.

So over the past couple of years, we've been creating better and better flagship phones.

And that has allowed us to grow and expand our business. But we also heard from consumers

that they want to see a more affordable OnePlus phone. And, you know, back in the early days,

we were only selling online and our phones were really great flagship phones so that

a really reasonable price. So we have some of those users from, from back in the day asking

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