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In 1929, psychiatrist Dr. Menninger traveled to prison to meet with an infamous prisoner, Carl Panzram.

Panzram was a self-confessed murderer, but Dr. Menninger wasn't scared.

After all, Panzram was shackled and accompanied by five policemen.

Menninger was so confident of his safety,

he told Panzram that there was no way the murderer could harm him.

But he was wrong.

Pansram suddenly leapt forward in his chains, right at the doctor.

Pansram growled, quote,

take these off of me for three minutes and I'll show you.

I'll kill you right before their eyes,

before they can stop me.

You won't have time to be scared."

End quote.

Hi, I'm Greg Polson, and this is serial killers.

Today we're going to continue our deep dive into the life of Carl Panzram,

a serial killer who admitted to murdering 21 people along with committing rape, arson, and burglary.

I'm here with my co-host Vanessa Richardson.

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